diff --git a/local/bin/kelderlisten b/local/bin/kelderlisten
new file mode 100755
index 0000000..88a9503
--- /dev/null
+++ b/local/bin/kelderlisten
@@ -0,0 +1,2 @@
+#!/bin/sh
+curl -s kelder.zeus.ugent.be/messages/ | w3m -dump -T text/html
diff --git a/local/bin/keldersay b/local/bin/keldersay
index 2aebb0f..7c9638a 100755
--- a/local/bin/keldersay
+++ b/local/bin/keldersay
@@ -1,2 +1,2 @@
 #!/bin/sh
-curl --header "Content-Type: text/plain" -d "$*" kelder.zeus.ugent.be/messages/
+curl -s --header "Content-Type: text/plain" -d "$*" kelder.zeus.ugent.be/messages/ --output /dev/null